WEBVTT 0:00:08.260000 --> 0:00:11.600000 So now we're going to go into the last section of today's presentation. 0:00:11.600000 --> 0:00:15.560000 You decide that you want to design and create your own labs. 0:00:15.560000 --> 0:00:18.900000 What I mean by that is you're using somebody else's topology like INE's 0:00:18.900000 --> 0:00:22.720000 or somebody else, but you're going to create your own topologies, your 0:00:22.720000 --> 0:00:25.760000 own protocols, and you're going to play with their equipment. 0:00:25.760000 --> 0:00:30.380000 So what's the best way to do that? 0:00:30.380000 --> 0:00:33.080000 Somebody asked me earlier, I don't remember who it was, if I could just 0:00:33.080000 --> 0:00:37.540000 real quickly do a demonstration on how to get into INE's racks and how 0:00:37.540000 --> 0:00:38.880000 to rent time and stuff. 0:00:38.880000 --> 0:00:39.940000 I'll show you how to do that. 0:00:39.940000 --> 0:00:42.680000 So for those of you who are not familiar with that, we will go into that 0:00:42.680000 --> 0:00:45.660000 as soon as I'm done with this session right here. 0:00:45.660000 --> 0:00:50.880000 Okay, so I talked about the pros and cons previously of using a workbook. 0:00:50.880000 --> 0:00:54.460000 Were the pros and cons of not using a workbook, doing everything from 0:00:54.460000 --> 0:01:00.300000 your own brain? Well, you can custom tailor your lab based on your available 0:01:00.300000 --> 0:01:03.440000 resources. That's nice. 0:01:03.440000 --> 0:01:07.880000 You can custom tailor your lab based on your own interests. 0:01:07.880000 --> 0:01:10.580000 You're not dependent on the interests of the lab developer. 0:01:10.580000 --> 0:01:14.280000 You can do whatever features and protocols, whatever iOS commands you 0:01:14.280000 --> 0:01:20.300000 want to do. You have now opportunity to go into much greater depth on 0:01:20.300000 --> 0:01:23.800000 a topic than is typically found in a pre-designed lab guide. 0:01:23.800000 --> 0:01:29.440000 That's true. This is probably the single biggest advantage. 0:01:29.440000 --> 0:01:35.260000 Trying something and failing is a great learning opportunity. 0:01:35.260000 --> 0:01:40.800000 For example, I have probably personally learned the most when I sat down 0:01:40.800000 --> 0:01:45.100000 with a piece of paper and I said, okay, here's what I want to do. 0:01:45.100000 --> 0:01:50.580000 I've got two routers with two paths to each other. 0:01:50.580000 --> 0:01:54.480000 I want to try to influence load balancing. 0:01:54.480000 --> 0:02:01.080000 Maybe influence my EIJRP load balancing based off of the load variable. 0:02:01.080000 --> 0:02:02.560000 I don't care about bandwidth and delay. 0:02:02.560000 --> 0:02:06.000000 I want to see if I can influence the load on a particular link to get 0:02:06.000000 --> 0:02:09.060000 EIJRP to flip over to a link that has less load. 0:02:09.060000 --> 0:02:12.180000 Let's just say this is actually something I tried recently. 0:02:12.180000 --> 0:02:15.060000 I drew it all out. 0:02:15.060000 --> 0:02:17.500000 I pre-configured it with IP addresses and stuff. 0:02:17.500000 --> 0:02:19.680000 I discovered that I couldn't. 0:02:19.680000 --> 0:02:22.680000 There was no way for me to get that to work. 0:02:22.680000 --> 0:02:25.140000 That's not a failure in my mind. 0:02:25.140000 --> 0:02:27.320000 Even though I couldn't get it to work, that was an incredible learning 0:02:27.320000 --> 0:02:33.160000 opportunity. I learned how to get EIJRP to factor load into the calculation. 0:02:33.160000 --> 0:02:36.440000 I learned how to increase the load on interface. 0:02:36.440000 --> 0:02:37.480000 I learned all kinds of stuff. 0:02:37.480000 --> 0:02:42.220000 Even though I wasn't able to meet my objective by failing, I learned a 0:02:42.220000 --> 0:02:45.120000 whole bunch of stuff I didn't know before. 0:02:45.120000 --> 0:02:48.480000 You're not going to get that experience when you're following a lab guide. 0:02:48.480000 --> 0:02:52.820000 A lab guide is typically built so that if you follow the steps, you will 0:02:52.820000 --> 0:02:56.700000 succeed. If you follow the steps, you will succeed in configuring or doing 0:02:56.700000 --> 0:02:59.220000 whatever the lab developer wanted you to do. 0:02:59.220000 --> 0:03:02.540000 They're not typically going to design something to a lab guide to intentionally 0:03:02.540000 --> 0:03:07.420000 have you fail. Sometimes, but usually not. 0:03:07.420000 --> 0:03:12.240000 In my personal opinion, understanding why something doesn't work can be 0:03:12.240000 --> 0:03:16.360000 just as valuable as understanding why it does work. 0:03:16.360000 --> 0:03:21.020000 I tell people all the time, look, when you're first learning about EIJRP, 0:03:21.020000 --> 0:03:23.320000 what are some of the first things they want you to know? 0:03:23.320000 --> 0:03:25.160000 EIJRP neighbor relationships. 0:03:25.160000 --> 0:03:27.420000 What's required to make the neighbor relationship? 0:03:27.420000 --> 0:03:29.660000 The K values have to be the same. 0:03:29.660000 --> 0:03:31.700000 The autonomous system values have to be the same. 0:03:31.700000 --> 0:03:34.100000 They give you like four or five things. 0:03:34.100000 --> 0:03:37.900000 But they don't really tell you about, well, what are you going to see 0:03:37.900000 --> 0:03:40.900000 if some of those things don't match up? 0:03:40.900000 --> 0:03:42.760000 That's very valuable information. 0:03:42.760000 --> 0:03:46.460000 I love going into a lab and saying, okay, what if my K values don't match? 0:03:46.460000 --> 0:03:49.860000 What if my autonomous system number doesn't match? 0:03:49.860000 --> 0:03:51.500000 Can I see something in a debug? 0:03:51.500000 --> 0:03:55.320000 Can I see something in a syslog that will clue me off to that? 0:03:55.320000 --> 0:03:57.540000 Because that's going to help you in the long run with troubleshooting 0:03:57.540000 --> 0:04:01.220000 stuff. Just getting it to work and getting it to work and getting it to 0:04:01.220000 --> 0:04:03.480000 work, that's not really going to help you if you ever need to troubleshoot 0:04:03.480000 --> 0:04:11.520000 this stuff. Now, where are some cons to designing your own labs? 0:04:11.520000 --> 0:04:14.660000 Well, you might end up spending valuable time on troubleshooting problems. 0:04:14.660000 --> 0:04:17.900000 Now, there's a silver lining to this cloud, but some people could say, 0:04:17.900000 --> 0:04:21.920000 hey, look, I rented three hours on this rack. 0:04:21.920000 --> 0:04:25.580000 And before I even press the start button, I came up with this nice lab 0:04:25.580000 --> 0:04:30.100000 I want to do based on private VLANs here, which go into DHCP snooping 0:04:30.100000 --> 0:04:32.720000 here, which feed into EIGRP here. 0:04:32.720000 --> 0:04:36.560000 But I only got into the private VLANs section, the very first part of 0:04:36.560000 --> 0:04:39.900000 my lab. I start getting air messages and it wasn't working right. 0:04:39.900000 --> 0:04:44.260000 And I consume my entire three hours just troubleshooting private VLANs. 0:04:44.260000 --> 0:04:47.940000 Well, you can look at that one of two ways, right? 0:04:47.940000 --> 0:04:51.900000 That could be a con that you weren't able to complete within your allotted 0:04:51.900000 --> 0:04:54.680000 time what you wanted to complete. 0:04:54.680000 --> 0:04:58.600000 But the pro is, you'll learn to heck up a lot about private VLANs during 0:04:58.600000 --> 0:05:00.280000 all that troubleshooting, right? 0:05:00.280000 --> 0:05:03.400000 So, there is a silver lining to that. 0:05:03.400000 --> 0:05:09.820000 You may miss critical features and protocols, right? 0:05:09.820000 --> 0:05:15.680000 You are designing your labs based on what you think is in the certification 0:05:15.680000 --> 0:05:19.600000 exam. And you did that probably based on the blueprint. 0:05:19.600000 --> 0:05:23.100000 You looked at the route or the switch or the CCIE blueprint, and you're 0:05:23.100000 --> 0:05:24.940000 doing your labs based on that. 0:05:24.940000 --> 0:05:27.940000 But these blueprints don't always give you the full picture. 0:05:27.940000 --> 0:05:30.900000 A lot of times there's features and protocols that these exams expect 0:05:30.900000 --> 0:05:33.540000 you to know that they don't put into the blueprint. 0:05:33.540000 --> 0:05:36.700000 Personally, I think that's kind of nasty that they do that, but that does 0:05:36.700000 --> 0:05:41.000000 happen. And so if you're just making your labs up yourself, how are you 0:05:41.000000 --> 0:05:42.860000 going to know what you missed? 0:05:42.860000 --> 0:05:45.640000 That might be a problem. 0:05:45.640000 --> 0:05:50.240000 You might accidentally design a lab that's unsupported by your variable 0:05:50.240000 --> 0:05:52.380000 hardware and feature set. 0:05:52.380000 --> 0:05:53.400000 It happens, right? 0:05:53.400000 --> 0:05:56.120000 I mean, when you're designing, you know, when you're going back to the 0:05:56.120000 --> 0:05:59.600000 building the home lab, chances are you're not going to be able to think 0:05:59.600000 --> 0:06:05.100000 of 100% of everything you're ever going to want to do on your home lab. 0:06:05.100000 --> 0:06:07.760000 There's going to be something you're going to miss. 0:06:07.760000 --> 0:06:09.060000 So same thing here. 0:06:09.060000 --> 0:06:13.760000 If you're using a remote rack, you know in advance what the topology of 0:06:13.760000 --> 0:06:15.540000 that remote rack looks like. 0:06:15.540000 --> 0:06:19.100000 You know in advance what hardware and software is in there. 0:06:19.100000 --> 0:06:23.220000 So maybe you think to yourself, okay, based on this topology right here, 0:06:23.220000 --> 0:06:25.720000 I want to create IPv6 tunnels. 0:06:25.720000 --> 0:06:29.300000 I want to do some isotap between these two routers right here. 0:06:29.300000 --> 0:06:32.560000 And you spend a bunch of time writing up your lab, drawing it up, and 0:06:32.560000 --> 0:06:36.180000 then you press the start button only to discover, oh, isotap's not an 0:06:36.180000 --> 0:06:39.480000 option. I'm doing tunnel mode and I don't see isotap in there because 0:06:39.480000 --> 0:06:42.920000 this feature set on this switch or router doesn't support it. 0:06:42.920000 --> 0:06:46.460000 That kind of stinks because now the time is counting down and the lab 0:06:46.460000 --> 0:06:48.800000 you developed, you can't even do. 0:06:48.800000 --> 0:06:53.420000 So you'll run into that sometimes as well. 0:06:53.420000 --> 0:06:56.640000 And you might leave yourself down a rat hole. 0:06:56.640000 --> 0:07:02.420000 And what I mean by this is you might start out by developing a lab on, 0:07:02.420000 --> 0:07:07.360000 I don't know, DHCP snooping or something like that. 0:07:07.360000 --> 0:07:11.000000 You've got all built out, you drew your cloud, your IP addresses and everything, 0:07:11.000000 --> 0:07:14.960000 press the start button on your own rack, and now your two hours you reserve 0:07:14.960000 --> 0:07:16.860000 starts counting down. 0:07:16.860000 --> 0:07:20.600000 And you get a little into it and you say, oh, here's a cool keyword. 0:07:20.600000 --> 0:07:21.400000 I've never seen that before. 0:07:21.400000 --> 0:07:22.920000 I wonder what that does. 0:07:22.920000 --> 0:07:24.780000 Oh, well, let me try this. 0:07:24.780000 --> 0:07:25.360000 Let me try this. 0:07:25.360000 --> 0:07:28.060000 And all of a sudden two hours has gone by and you've just been stuck on 0:07:28.060000 --> 0:07:29.140000 this one command. 0:07:29.140000 --> 0:07:32.500000 Trying out various keywords, doing a little bit of research right here, 0:07:32.500000 --> 0:07:36.140000 and your time is up and you never even got 20% into the lab you want to 0:07:36.140000 --> 0:07:39.340000 get into because you got stuck in this rat hole. 0:07:39.340000 --> 0:07:41.760000 Once again, pros and cons, right? 0:07:41.760000 --> 0:07:44.140000 The pro of that is, well, you learned something still. 0:07:44.140000 --> 0:07:45.420000 It was a learning experience. 0:07:45.420000 --> 0:07:49.040000 The con is you just spent money on two hours and you did not meet your 0:07:49.040000 --> 0:07:52.860000 objective of the lab that you developed that you wanted to do. 0:07:52.860000 --> 0:07:56.660000 So those are some cons. 0:07:56.660000 --> 0:08:01.060000 Okay, so where are some approaches to designing your own labs? 0:08:01.060000 --> 0:08:04.380000 Two approaches. Approach number one. 0:08:04.380000 --> 0:08:10.060000 You can find an available topology first and design your labs around your 0:08:10.060000 --> 0:08:14.240000 resources. So, for example, you say, okay, I've looked at six different 0:08:14.240000 --> 0:08:20.640000 vendors who offer me remote racks and I'm going to go with INE, of course. 0:08:20.640000 --> 0:08:22.800000 So I'm looking at this topology diagram here. 0:08:22.800000 --> 0:08:26.380000 This is this, INE has given me three switches and four routers, a couple 0:08:26.380000 --> 0:08:27.180000 of backbone routers. 0:08:27.180000 --> 0:08:30.100000 I can't really touch, so I can't factor those in. 0:08:30.100000 --> 0:08:32.960000 So really I've got four routers and three switches available to me. 0:08:32.960000 --> 0:08:36.760000 Okay, based on that, I'm going to build my lab on that. 0:08:36.760000 --> 0:08:38.980000 I'm going to say, okay, well, with that, I could have a couple of autonomous 0:08:38.980000 --> 0:08:41.380000 systems. I could do some filtering here. 0:08:41.380000 --> 0:08:42.160000 Blah, blah, blah. 0:08:42.160000 --> 0:08:44.280000 So that's one approach. 0:08:44.280000 --> 0:08:50.860000 Approach number two is start by building your lab on paper saying yourself, 0:08:50.860000 --> 0:08:52.080000 okay, here's what I want to do. 0:08:52.080000 --> 0:08:56.540000 I want to do eBGP between three different autonomous systems. 0:08:56.540000 --> 0:09:00.800000 Within this autonomous system, I want to have IBGP with five routers so 0:09:00.800000 --> 0:09:15.440000 I can practice route reflection and local preference and blah, blah, blah. 0:09:15.440000 --> 0:09:17.420000 That's the second approach. 0:09:17.420000 --> 0:09:21.600000 Personally, I find approach number one to be more effective. 0:09:21.600000 --> 0:09:26.820000 I think it's better to know what your constraints are first, right? 0:09:26.820000 --> 0:09:29.960000 Pick some remote equipment, some remote rack, whether it be the Cisco 0:09:29.960000 --> 0:09:35.620000 learning labs, whether it be INE, whatever, and then build your topology 0:09:35.620000 --> 0:09:39.240000 based around the hardware and the connections that you have available 0:09:39.240000 --> 0:09:43.460000 to you. As it says, you're going to find it very difficult to find racks 0:09:43.460000 --> 0:09:49.000000 that meet a pre-designed topology. 0:09:49.000000 --> 0:09:51.380000 All right, finding the equipment. 0:09:51.380000 --> 0:09:53.060000 So you say, okay, well, how do I choose? 0:09:53.060000 --> 0:09:56.120000 There's the Cisco learning labs, there's INE, there's this, that, and 0:09:56.120000 --> 0:09:56.600000 the other thing. 0:09:56.600000 --> 0:09:58.660000 There's lots of companies out there. 0:09:58.660000 --> 0:10:01.140000 They're providing access to their equipment. 0:10:01.140000 --> 0:10:03.980000 How do I select one? 0:10:03.980000 --> 0:10:06.580000 Okay, so here's some key things to look for. 0:10:06.580000 --> 0:10:10.480000 Price, clearly, right? 0:10:10.480000 --> 0:10:14.560000 That's a fact. I don't think I have to talk too much about that. 0:10:14.560000 --> 0:10:18.980000 The availability of both routers and switches in a single topology. 0:10:18.980000 --> 0:10:22.940000 So you're ideally going to want to look for topology that has a combination 0:10:22.940000 --> 0:10:30.280000 of routers and switches in it, which will give you more flexibility. 0:10:30.280000 --> 0:10:33.280000 If some vendor out there says, here's our switching lab, and they got 0:10:33.280000 --> 0:10:36.820000 five switches. Here's our routing lab with five routers. 0:10:36.820000 --> 0:10:39.940000 Well, now you're kind of limited in what you can do if you can only choose 0:10:39.940000 --> 0:10:41.820000 one or the other. 0:10:41.820000 --> 0:10:46.940000 Is it real equipment or emulated equipment? 0:10:46.940000 --> 0:10:48.880000 This is a big one right here. 0:10:48.880000 --> 0:10:54.320000 Now, for routing labs, emulated equipment typically is fine. 0:10:54.320000 --> 0:10:57.900000 For example, if you're using GNS or the Cisco learning labs or something 0:10:57.900000 --> 0:11:02.180000 which use IOU, you can pretty much do everything you want to do with routing 0:11:02.180000 --> 0:11:06.080000 with that. Switching, though, we've already talked about that. 0:11:06.080000 --> 0:11:09.840000 When it comes to the more advanced switching topics and features, you're 0:11:09.840000 --> 0:11:12.520000 going to need access to real equipment. 0:11:12.520000 --> 0:11:15.540000 Emulated or assimilated switches just not going to cut it. 0:11:15.540000 --> 0:11:19.520000 You're going to find yourself getting very frustrated over a lack of commands, 0:11:19.520000 --> 0:11:23.300000 a lack of features and protocols you'd have available in a real physical 0:11:23.300000 --> 0:11:25.680000 switch. So you should know that. 0:11:25.680000 --> 0:11:28.600000 This venue right here, this guy wants to rent me his stuff for a dollar 0:11:28.600000 --> 0:11:31.100000 an hour. Wow, that sounds really good. 0:11:31.100000 --> 0:11:32.000000 What am I doing? 0:11:32.000000 --> 0:11:35.560000 I'm actually getting into a server that's running VMware and I'm getting 0:11:35.560000 --> 0:11:38.180000 access to some virtual routers and switches. 0:11:38.180000 --> 0:11:42.920000 It's cheap, but I'm going to be kind of limited in what I can do there. 0:11:42.920000 --> 0:11:48.180000 You want a selected topology that's flexible. 0:11:48.180000 --> 0:11:50.440000 What do I mean by that? 0:11:50.440000 --> 0:11:54.020000 Well, you want to find a topology that has a lot of link redundancy. 0:11:54.020000 --> 0:11:56.860000 A topology that's got between your switches. 0:11:56.860000 --> 0:11:59.660000 If you've got a topology of switches and there's just a single link between 0:11:59.660000 --> 0:12:02.740000 them, how are you going to do ether channel with that? 0:12:02.740000 --> 0:12:05.440000 How are you going to do topologies where a link fails and it has to back 0:12:05.440000 --> 0:12:06.580000 up to another link? 0:12:06.580000 --> 0:12:08.320000 You're not going to be able to do that. 0:12:08.320000 --> 0:12:10.200000 What about router topologies? 0:12:10.200000 --> 0:12:12.740000 If you've got a topology where a router just has a single serial interface 0:12:12.740000 --> 0:12:16.560000 to another router and that's it, once again, you're kind of limited. 0:12:16.560000 --> 0:12:20.100000 Ideally, you want to find a topology that's got multiple links and multiple 0:12:20.100000 --> 0:12:24.880000 paths through the topologies so you can have all sorts of designs that 0:12:24.880000 --> 0:12:26.640000 you can come up with. 0:12:26.640000 --> 0:12:32.040000 Scheduling availability. 0:12:32.040000 --> 0:12:34.080000 Another thing here. 0:12:34.080000 --> 0:12:40.320000 Most remote systems have some sort of scheduling tool and most of them, 0:12:40.320000 --> 0:12:44.420000 certainly, INE's will let you see in advance what the availability is. 0:12:44.420000 --> 0:12:46.940000 This is also something to look for. 0:12:46.940000 --> 0:12:50.380000 Check it out. If you go on to some vendor's website and you say, oh, that's 0:12:50.380000 --> 0:12:55.980000 an awesome topology, pretty decent price, but you look at a schedule and 0:12:55.980000 --> 0:12:58.820000 most of the time it's in use. 0:12:58.820000 --> 0:13:01.500000 There's just like little tiny snippets of time here and there where it's 0:13:01.500000 --> 0:13:04.820000 free. You probably don't want to pop your money down with that vendor 0:13:04.820000 --> 0:13:06.980000 because you're going to be frustrated because you're not going to have 0:13:06.980000 --> 0:13:09.740000 access to that rack when you want it. 0:13:09.740000 --> 0:13:14.140000 So that's something to look at. 0:13:14.140000 --> 0:13:18.160000 Does it require you to download any special front-end software? 0:13:18.160000 --> 0:13:21.560000 Now, INE does not require this, but some other vendors require you to 0:13:21.560000 --> 0:13:25.940000 download some Java software or some other stuff in advance and you're 0:13:25.940000 --> 0:13:32.300000 using their special GUI, their special application to get into the routers 0:13:32.300000 --> 0:13:34.860000 to type in the terminals and stuff? 0:13:34.860000 --> 0:13:36.680000 Are you okay with that? 0:13:36.680000 --> 0:13:38.340000 How do you know you're not downloading a virus? 0:13:38.340000 --> 0:13:40.460000 How do you know it's not going to mess up your laptop or something? 0:13:40.460000 --> 0:13:43.000000 So that's also something to consider. 0:13:43.000000 --> 0:13:47.920000 Are there preloaded configurations available? 0:13:47.920000 --> 0:13:52.360000 Now, if you're going to be developing your own labs from your head, a 0:13:52.360000 --> 0:13:56.920000 preload configuration is probably not going to really do much for you. 0:13:56.920000 --> 0:13:59.500000 So that's not really a benefit. 0:13:59.500000 --> 0:14:06.880000 One other thing on here that is not really listed is that you do not want 0:14:06.880000 --> 0:14:10.520000 to spend any money on a vendor's remote rack. 0:14:10.520000 --> 0:14:14.780000 Until you can see the topology diagram first. 0:14:14.780000 --> 0:14:19.060000 It makes kind of a common sense, but it's pretty important. 0:14:19.060000 --> 0:14:22.320000 You've got to know what you're getting into first before you spend money 0:14:22.320000 --> 0:14:25.920000 with them. Make sure you can see, okay, if I get into this rack, how many 0:14:25.920000 --> 0:14:27.180000 devices are in there? 0:14:27.180000 --> 0:14:29.160000 How many connections do they have? 0:14:29.160000 --> 0:14:32.440000 Is it pretty clear to me in their instructions how to move around between 0:14:32.440000 --> 0:14:34.360000 the different devices? 0:14:34.360000 --> 0:14:38.860000 So you should know all that stuff up front. 0:14:38.860000 --> 0:14:42.820000 So what I call creative labs, these are labs that you're designing yourself 0:14:42.820000 --> 0:14:46.640000 from your head. I typically recommend that they're used as a supplement 0:14:46.640000 --> 0:14:50.040000 alongside reading or watching videos or something. 0:14:50.040000 --> 0:14:56.900000 So the way I typically do this is I might be watching a video, for example, 0:14:56.900000 --> 0:15:01.740000 and some instructors teaching me how to do MPLS VPNs. 0:15:01.740000 --> 0:15:04.260000 And he or she is going through the steps. 0:15:04.260000 --> 0:15:06.180000 And I start and I pause it for a second. 0:15:06.180000 --> 0:15:09.300000 I say, oh, okay, well, based on what I've just learned here, I think I'd 0:15:09.300000 --> 0:15:10.360000 like to try that. 0:15:10.360000 --> 0:15:13.780000 So I pause the video and I write on my piece of paper, okay, based on 0:15:13.780000 --> 0:15:17.400000 what I've learned, I think if I have four routers here and I have the 0:15:17.400000 --> 0:15:20.100000 configured with this and I put these IP addresses on and then I resume 0:15:20.100000 --> 0:15:24.580000 the video. So it's used as a supplement or if I'm reading a book and I'm 0:15:24.580000 --> 0:15:29.920000 reading about, okay, here's the requirements for an OSPF adjacency. 0:15:29.920000 --> 0:15:34.260000 And it says, here's the various stages of OSPF, and knit, two-way, X-Star 0:15:34.260000 --> 0:15:37.280000 exchange, loading, full and I say, oh, I'd like to see that. 0:15:37.280000 --> 0:15:40.120000 I'd like to try to build a relationship and do a debug and see if I can 0:15:40.120000 --> 0:15:41.620000 see what's happening right there. 0:15:41.620000 --> 0:15:43.660000 I'll stop reading and I'll design a lab. 0:15:43.660000 --> 0:15:48.280000 I'll say, okay, let me put these two routers together and this is the 0:15:48.280000 --> 0:15:49.740000 IP addressing scheme I'm going to use. 0:15:49.740000 --> 0:15:52.860000 And so I just want to do a debug to see OSPF adjacency. 0:15:52.860000 --> 0:15:57.580000 So as I'm getting ideas, as I'm watching videos or reading things, I'm 0:15:57.580000 --> 0:16:00.540000 writing down those ideas and I'm coming up with labs I want to do to try 0:16:00.540000 --> 0:16:05.080000 to flesh out those ideas and make them real. 0:16:05.080000 --> 0:16:10.340000 So as inspiration strikes you, pause your reading or vaud washing right 0:16:10.340000 --> 0:16:16.220000 down what you like to do, I always say try to come up with ways to intentionally 0:16:16.220000 --> 0:16:20.780000 break it. That's just as valuable as making it work. 0:16:20.780000 --> 0:16:24.340000 And draw the minimum topology that it would enable you to accomplish your 0:16:24.340000 --> 0:16:28.680000 objective. So, let's do an example of this. 0:16:28.680000 --> 0:16:38.280000 Let's say that I had just read about BGP AS path prepending. 0:16:38.280000 --> 0:16:40.300000 I thought, I'd like to try that. 0:16:40.300000 --> 0:16:41.180000 I want to do that. 0:16:41.180000 --> 0:16:47.360000 So I think to myself, okay, what is the minimum requirements I would need 0:16:47.360000 --> 0:16:51.540000 to create a lab that would do BGP AS path prepending? 0:16:51.540000 --> 0:16:57.140000 Well, I know that from what I learned, AS path prepending is done between 0:16:57.140000 --> 0:16:58.840000 autonomous systems. 0:16:58.840000 --> 0:17:03.240000 It's an external BGP thing when one company wants to influence another 0:17:03.240000 --> 0:17:06.820000 company. So I say to myself, okay, so I know at minimum I'm going to need 0:17:06.820000 --> 0:17:11.920000 to develop a topology that has two autonomous systems, let's say. 0:17:11.920000 --> 0:17:17.300000 Okay? And so now I ask myself, I say, okay, well, could I do this with 0:17:17.300000 --> 0:17:20.200000 just two routers? 0:17:20.200000 --> 0:17:26.740000 Is it possible? Well, with BGP AS path prepending, the idea is a single 0:17:26.740000 --> 0:17:31.900000 router has learned from a different company, a different AS, the same 0:17:31.900000 --> 0:17:34.120000 route, but from two different locations. 0:17:34.120000 --> 0:17:37.120000 This router says, okay, I've learned about the 90 network via this guy 0:17:37.120000 --> 0:17:40.240000 up here and via this guy up here. 0:17:40.240000 --> 0:17:44.700000 And they're trying to influence me by using AS path prepending. 0:17:44.700000 --> 0:17:45.940000 So I think, okay, let's see here. 0:17:45.940000 --> 0:17:50.280000 This router now needs to learn about one route from two different locations. 0:17:50.280000 --> 0:17:53.520000 Can't really do that with just two routers. 0:17:53.520000 --> 0:17:58.300000 So at a minimum, I'm going to need three routers to accomplish this. 0:17:58.300000 --> 0:18:00.600000 So I say, all right, I'll do this. 0:18:00.600000 --> 0:18:03.980000 Now, how these guys are connected, I don't care. 0:18:03.980000 --> 0:18:06.720000 I don't care if it's fast-eathened, I don't care if it's serial. 0:18:06.720000 --> 0:18:09.640000 That's irrelevant to me, so I'll just draw some lines. 0:18:09.640000 --> 0:18:13.620000 Okay, now let's say, all right, this is going to be AS 100 just to make 0:18:13.620000 --> 0:18:15.400000 up some numbers here. 0:18:15.400000 --> 0:18:19.980000 AS 200, put some numbers on these routers so I can identify them. 0:18:19.980000 --> 0:18:25.800000 Great. Now I say, okay, well, I'm going to need to come up with some, 0:18:25.800000 --> 0:18:26.860000 let's see, what else do I need here? 0:18:26.860000 --> 0:18:29.500000 Well, these router one and router two are going to need to advertise the 0:18:29.500000 --> 0:18:31.600000 exact same network to router three. 0:18:31.600000 --> 0:18:34.560000 Well, let's see, what's the minimum I could do to accomplish that? 0:18:34.560000 --> 0:18:38.180000 Minimum hard run is create the same loopback in both of them. 0:18:38.180000 --> 0:18:42.640000 Loopback zero, 2020 -20-0, slash 24. 0:18:42.640000 --> 0:18:47.440000 This way, I don't need an additional cable, I don't need an additional 0:18:47.440000 --> 0:18:52.000000 interface for these routers to advertise the exact same route to each 0:18:52.000000 --> 0:18:55.820000 other. Okay, great. 0:18:55.820000 --> 0:19:02.040000 So now I've just developed the minimal topology I will need to do AS path 0:19:02.040000 --> 0:19:06.680000 prepending. With just three routers and two interfaces, I could practice 0:19:06.680000 --> 0:19:11.560000 this feature. So you're going to want to do something like this. 0:19:11.560000 --> 0:19:15.980000 Think about what you want to practice, draw it out, minimal possible, 0:19:15.980000 --> 0:19:20.060000 and then replicate that on your rack. 0:19:20.060000 --> 0:19:24.360000 Okay, so now you compare your drawing against your available lab topology. 0:19:24.360000 --> 0:19:27.320000 So here's where you take that drawing you came up with, and you go to 0:19:27.320000 --> 0:19:31.780000 the INE rack you decide to use, or the Cisco Learning Lab rack you decide 0:19:31.780000 --> 0:19:36.840000 to use. You say, okay, how am I going to incorporate this into the equipment 0:19:36.840000 --> 0:19:39.180000 I have available to me? 0:19:39.180000 --> 0:19:42.240000 And here's where you're going to add port numbers and interface numbers 0:19:42.240000 --> 0:19:44.580000 to my drawing to match the lab topology. 0:19:44.580000 --> 0:19:46.240000 So I say, okay, let's go back. 0:19:46.240000 --> 0:19:52.500000 So this is what I'm going to build, okay, and this is the rack available 0:19:52.500000 --> 0:19:55.780000 to me. And right now I'm just looking at my LAN connections. 0:19:55.780000 --> 0:19:57.860000 So I know I need three routers. 0:19:57.860000 --> 0:20:03.020000 So why don't I just use routers one, two, and three. 0:20:03.020000 --> 0:20:04.660000 Expand this a little bit here. 0:20:04.660000 --> 0:20:07.980000 You can see this better. 0:20:07.980000 --> 0:20:20.760000 There we go. Three is sort of a hub and spoke design. 0:20:20.760000 --> 0:20:22.820000 So three needs to connect to one and two. 0:20:22.820000 --> 0:20:27.940000 Well, if I look at this, three does have two interfaces. 0:20:27.940000 --> 0:20:30.920000 So fast ethernet zero zero and fast ethernet zero slash one. 0:20:30.920000 --> 0:20:33.180000 Okay, so I'll draw that on here. 0:20:33.180000 --> 0:20:36.340000 So we'll just say this is fast ethernet zero zero. 0:20:36.340000 --> 0:20:40.120000 This is fast ethernet zero slash one. 0:20:40.120000 --> 0:20:41.320000 Okay, I've got my interface there. 0:20:41.320000 --> 0:20:44.820000 Now, to connect three to one, how am I going to do that with my available 0:20:44.820000 --> 0:20:46.760000 topology? Well, let's see here. 0:20:46.760000 --> 0:20:49.380000 I can go through switch two and do that. 0:20:49.380000 --> 0:20:52.220000 So I'll just draw that into my topology diagram. 0:20:52.220000 --> 0:20:55.100000 I'll say, okay, I'm going to have switch two right here. 0:20:55.100000 --> 0:21:02.160000 Switch two, and that's going to be zero three on one side and zero two 0:21:02.160000 --> 0:21:05.140000 on another. And so you just start addhow am I going to incorporate this into the equipment 366 00:19:37,193 --> 00:19:38,693 I have available to me? 367 00:19:38,693 --> 00:19:42,593 Here's where you're going to add port numbers and interface numbers 368 00:19:42,593 --> 00:19:44,993 to my drawing to match the lab topology. 369 00:19:44,993 --> 00:19:46,193 I say, okay, let's go back. 370 00:19:46,493 --> 00:19:53,193 This is what I'm going to build and this is the rack available to 371 00:19:53,193 --> 00:19:55,593 me. Right now, I'm just looking at my LAN connections. 372 00:19:55,593 --> 00:19:57,393 I know I need three routers. 373 00:19:57,393 --> 00:20:04,293 Why don't I just use Routers 1, 2, and 3 expand this a little bit 374 00:20:04,293 --> 00:20:06,693 here so you can see this better. 375 00:20:06,993 --> 00:20:13,093 Here we go. So routers 1, 2, and 3. 376 00:20:13,093 --> 00:20:15,793 And according to my diagram right here, 377 00:20:15,793 --> 00:20:22,693 3 is sort of a hub-and-spoke design, so 3 needs to connect to 1 and 378 00:20:22,693 --> 00:20:28,093 2. Well, if I look at this, 3 does have two interfaces, 379 00:20:28,093 --> 00:20:31,393 so FastEthernet0/0 and FastEthernet0/1. 380 00:20:31,393 --> 00:20:32,593 Okay, so I'll draw that on here. 381 00:20:32,593 --> 00:20:36,193 So we'll just say this is FastEthernet0/0, 382 00:20:36,193 --> 00:20:40,093 this is FastEthernet0/1. 383 00:20:40,393 --> 00:20:41,593 Okay, I got my interface there. 384 00:20:41,593 --> 00:20:45,193 Now, to connect 3 to 1, how am I going to do that with my available 385 00:20:45,193 --> 00:20:49,093 topology? Well, see here, I could go through switch 2 and do that. 386 00:20:49,093 --> 00:20:52,693 So I'll just draw that into my topology diagram. 387 00:20:52,693 --> 00:20:54,793 I'll say, okay, I'm going to have switch 2 right here, 388 00:20:54,793 --> 00:21:03,193 switch 2, and that's going to be 0/3 on one side and 0/2 on another 389 00:21:03,493 --> 00:21:05,293 You just start adding this in. 390 00:21:05,293 --> 00:21:13,993 This can be 0/3 over here and let's say 0/ - I'm going to Router 391 00:21:13,993 --> 00:21:18,793 2 - so 0/1-- okay, Router 1 0/2. 392 00:21:19,093 --> 00:21:24,193 That ultimately leads me to fastethernet 0/1. 393 00:21:24,493 --> 00:21:26,593 This is what you're doing. 394 00:21:26,893 --> 00:21:30,793 You're taking what you conceptually developed and you're adding the 395 00:21:30,793 --> 00:21:34,393 real logistics to this of what your actual topology supports. 396 00:21:34,393 --> 00:21:35,293 I would do the same thing. 397 00:21:35,293 --> 00:21:36,493 I'm not going to fill it in here but I'd say, 398 00:21:36,493 --> 00:21:41,193 okay, for 3 to use his other interface fastethernet 0/1 to get to 399 00:21:41,493 --> 00:21:46,593 Router 2, I would probably add in two switches and type in my interface 400 00:21:46,593 --> 00:21:51,093 numbers. Eventually, I'd come up with a real drawing of the port 401 00:21:51,393 --> 00:21:55,293 numbers and interface names and numbers I'm going to use to connect 402 00:21:55,593 --> 00:21:56,193 this altogether. 403 00:21:56,493 --> 00:22:03,993 Now you can devise your IP addressing scheme and any other prerequisite 404 00:22:03,993 --> 00:22:04,893 configurations. 405 00:22:05,193 --> 00:22:06,993 So I take a look at what I'm drawing right here. 406 00:22:07,293 --> 00:22:11,193 And remember, we're doing all this before I actually rent any time, 407 00:22:11,193 --> 00:22:13,893 and my money is actually counting down at all. 408 00:22:13,893 --> 00:22:18,993 And I say, you'll see see here, in order to do my IP addressing-- 409 00:22:18,993 --> 00:22:21,393 let's just put in some addresses here. 410 00:22:21,393 --> 00:22:28,593 Let's just say this is 3.2.3.3, let's say this is 3.2.3.2. 411 00:22:28,593 --> 00:22:33,693 And so now, I come up with my-- let's just do this one over here, 412 00:22:33,693 --> 00:22:37,593 since I've already done my interface numbers. 413 00:22:37,893 --> 00:22:47,193 This one up here, 3.1.3.1/24. 414 00:22:47,193 --> 00:22:51,393 At this point, this is where I start coming off of my pre-config, 415 00:22:51,393 --> 00:22:55,893 so I can just copy and paste something into my router without wasting 416 00:22:55,893 --> 00:22:57,393 valuable rack rental time. 417 00:22:57,393 --> 00:23:07,593 So I say, this is going to be R3 enable config T hostname R3, 418 00:23:07,593 --> 00:23:13,593 interface FastEthernet0/0, and let's put all my stuff in here. 419 00:23:13,593 --> 00:23:15,993 I'm not going to complete this, but you just get the idea. 420 00:23:16,293 --> 00:23:24,093 IP address 3.1.3.3 no shut. 421 00:23:24,093 --> 00:23:29,493 And so by the time I'm done with this, I will have a configuration, 422 00:23:29,793 --> 00:23:34,066 for R3 has got my IP addresses, it has my BGP configuration with 423 00:23:34,066 --> 00:23:38,266 AS 200. And so once I hit the start button on my rack rental, 424 00:23:38,266 --> 00:23:44,066 I can just copy and paste this in without wasting time of coming up 425 00:23:44,066 --> 00:23:45,266 with it beforehand. 426 00:23:45,266 --> 00:23:49,766 And then lastly, devise a rough time estimate for how long I think 427 00:23:49,766 --> 00:23:52,766 it's going to take for me to complete my objective. 428 00:23:53,066 --> 00:23:56,866 So I might think to myself, well, after I'm all said and done 429 00:23:56,866 --> 00:23:59,566 here, this is actually a pretty small lab. 430 00:23:59,866 --> 00:24:03,466 I think it's probably only going to take me about 15 or 20 minutes 431 00:24:03,466 --> 00:24:08,566 to complete this but when I look at this company's website, 432 00:24:08,866 --> 00:24:12,766 the minimum time I have to rent time on the rack is one hour. 433 00:24:12,766 --> 00:24:17,566 I don't want to rent one hour and then just spend 20 minutes doing 434 00:24:17,866 --> 00:24:19,966 my lab and then I'm done because that's wasted time, 435 00:24:19,966 --> 00:24:23,866 so now that I know that in advance, let me see if I can come up with 436 00:24:23,866 --> 00:24:27,166 some other objectives that will fill up that time so I will effectively 437 00:24:27,466 --> 00:24:31,066 use that one hour slot that I'm renting because, 438 00:24:31,066 --> 00:24:33,166 remember, my objective here is I don't want to waste money. 439 00:24:33,466 --> 00:24:37,666 So, don't log into the remote equipment until you have enough objectives 440 00:24:37,666 --> 00:24:40,666 to fill up your scheduled time slot. 441 00:24:40,966 --> 00:24:44,266 When you're using a vendor's remote rack system for the first time, 442 00:24:44,266 --> 00:24:45,766 you're not going to be familiar with it. 443 00:24:45,766 --> 00:24:48,166 You're not going to be familiar with the menu system, 444 00:24:48,166 --> 00:24:50,866 with how to move around in it, with how to start it, 445 00:24:51,166 --> 00:24:55,066 with how to load configs, so be aware of that up front and just know, 446 00:24:55,366 --> 00:24:58,366 just think to yourself, okay I'm really going to have to budget probably 447 00:24:58,366 --> 00:25:01,666 a minimum of 5 or 10 minutes up front, maybe 15 minutes, 448 00:25:01,966 --> 00:25:04,966 just to get familiar with the system but you only have to do that 449 00:25:05,266 --> 00:25:08,866 once. So that will be a-- you might consider that money wasted, 450 00:25:08,866 --> 00:25:11,266 but it'll only be once and then you'll be familiar with it. 451 00:25:11,266 --> 00:25:13,066 But just be familiar with that. 452 00:25:13,066 --> 00:25:16,366 Start with a clean slate. 453 00:25:16,366 --> 00:25:18,166 Delete any existing configurations. 454 00:25:18,466 --> 00:25:21,166 Now, when you get into their system, what this is talking about is, 455 00:25:21,166 --> 00:25:24,466 ideally, when you log in to the vendor's rack, 456 00:25:24,466 --> 00:25:26,266 it'll start out with nothing. 457 00:25:26,266 --> 00:25:29,466 Right? No IP addresses, no host names, and you can just do all that 458 00:25:29,766 --> 00:25:33,066 from scratch. But if for some reason you select a vendor's equipment-- 459 00:25:33,366 --> 00:25:38,466 for example, let's see you go with the Cisco Learning Labs and you 460 00:25:38,466 --> 00:25:41,566 say, well, there's really no learning lab that says default. 461 00:25:41,566 --> 00:25:42,866 So you say, let's see here. 462 00:25:42,866 --> 00:25:44,666 I want to practice BGP. 463 00:25:44,666 --> 00:25:46,166 I want to do AS path prepending. 464 00:25:46,466 --> 00:25:49,766 And looking at the learning labs here, they've got a learning lab 465 00:25:50,066 --> 00:25:51,566 that's on OSPF. 466 00:25:51,566 --> 00:25:55,166 I don't care about that, but looking at the topology, 467 00:25:55,166 --> 00:25:57,566 I think I could do my BGP lab here. 468 00:25:57,566 --> 00:26:00,266 So in that particular case, when you log into that lab, 469 00:26:00,266 --> 00:26:03,266 it's probably going to be preconfigured with some IP addresses and 470 00:26:03,566 --> 00:26:06,566 OSPF stuff. What I'm saying here is wipe all that out. 471 00:26:06,566 --> 00:26:10,166 Don't add your configuration to it because, 472 00:26:10,166 --> 00:26:12,266 now, you might be introducing a whole bunch of problems that you 473 00:26:12,266 --> 00:26:13,166 don't want to have to troubleshoot. 474 00:26:13,466 --> 00:26:14,666 Just clean it all out. 475 00:26:14,666 --> 00:26:17,966 Yes, it'll take maybe three or four minutes of time to clean it all 476 00:26:17,966 --> 00:26:20,966 out, write, erase, and reload, but then start with a clean slate. 477 00:26:21,266 --> 00:26:24,266 And after implementing your own initial config, 478 00:26:24,266 --> 00:26:26,966 save them again to text files if any changes were made. 479 00:26:26,966 --> 00:26:31,166 As I was making my pre-config there in my Notepad or whatever, 480 00:26:31,166 --> 00:26:33,566 it's inevitable that I'm going to make mistakes. 481 00:26:33,566 --> 00:26:38,366 I might forget to put the AS number after my router BGP statement. 482 00:26:38,666 --> 00:26:43,166 I might forget to put the update source loopback0 after my neighbor 483 00:26:43,466 --> 00:26:45,566 statement. There might be little things like that here and there 484 00:26:45,566 --> 00:26:51,266 which as I copy and paste, I will realize and say unsupported command 485 00:26:51,266 --> 00:26:53,366 or incomplete command or something like that. 486 00:26:53,366 --> 00:26:56,966 Well, as I change that, change it in my pre-config. 487 00:26:56,966 --> 00:26:59,666 So now, if I ever want to go back and redo that lab, 488 00:26:59,666 --> 00:27:01,466 I fixed my text file. 489 00:27:01,766 --> 00:27:03,666 It's perfect. I can now copy and paste it. 490 00:27:03,666 --> 00:27:07,266 ready to go. You're probably going to want to play around debugs. 491 00:27:07,266 --> 00:27:08,766 Debugs are fun, right? 492 00:27:08,766 --> 00:27:10,266 Debugs show you all kinds of stuff. 493 00:27:10,566 --> 00:27:14,166 It is a good thing to know what debug do I need to turn on to see 494 00:27:14,166 --> 00:27:15,966 what I want to see. 495 00:27:15,966 --> 00:27:18,666 What debug will show me what I'm looking for? 496 00:27:18,966 --> 00:27:22,566 But as it says here, debugs can be hazardous to your health. 497 00:27:22,566 --> 00:27:24,966 Keep in mind that when you turn on a debug, 498 00:27:24,966 --> 00:27:27,966 what are you asking that router or switch really to do? 499 00:27:28,266 --> 00:27:33,666 You're telling the CPU, hey CPU, even though you can do billions of instructions 500 00:27:33,666 --> 00:27:38,266 per second, I want you to slow down and everything you think about, 501 00:27:38,266 --> 00:27:41,866 I want you to send it to the console so I can see it. 502 00:27:41,866 --> 00:27:46,666 If a debug is really chatty like let's say you do some sort of spanning-tree 503 00:27:46,666 --> 00:27:50,566 debug and spanning-tree can be very chatty-- if you've got lots of 504 00:27:50,566 --> 00:27:52,966 interfaces running spanning-tree and lots of VLANs, 505 00:27:53,266 --> 00:27:55,666 you can turn on debug within a couple of seconds and [boom?], 506 00:27:55,966 --> 00:27:57,666 all kinds of stuff is going on there. 507 00:27:57,666 --> 00:28:01,266 Ultimately, you can end up crashing a system by doing that. 508 00:28:01,566 --> 00:28:06,066 The CPU can just be so overwhelmed spitting out all that output to 509 00:28:06,066 --> 00:28:08,166 the console that just freezes up or dies. 510 00:28:08,466 --> 00:28:10,066 So here's a suggestion. 511 00:28:10,066 --> 00:28:12,166 Number one, don't log it to the console. 512 00:28:12,166 --> 00:28:14,866 You don't really need to see it in real time. 513 00:28:14,866 --> 00:28:18,166 You don't want to have a situation where your inner remote rack, 514 00:28:18,166 --> 00:28:22,066 you paid money to be there, and then you crashed it. 515 00:28:22,066 --> 00:28:23,866 You don't want to deal with that. 516 00:28:23,866 --> 00:28:27,766 So no logging console debug, which is basically saying, 517 00:28:27,766 --> 00:28:31,566 look, when I turn on a debug, don't show me the results in the console. 518 00:28:31,566 --> 00:28:36,366 Instead, take those results and send them to a memory buffer, 519 00:28:36,366 --> 00:28:38,466 logging buffer debug. 520 00:28:38,466 --> 00:28:42,366 And then I can just see the output of that when I want to. 521 00:28:42,666 --> 00:28:45,366 So for example I can say, Clear log, start my debug, 522 00:28:45,366 --> 00:28:48,066 like in this case I'm using an EIGRP debug. 523 00:28:48,066 --> 00:28:52,666 Let it run for a few seconds, stop it with un all, 524 00:28:52,666 --> 00:28:55,366 that's short for undebug all, and then look at the log. 525 00:28:55,666 --> 00:28:57,766 Show log, and there will be all the output right there. 526 00:28:58,066 --> 00:29:02,966 And I don't risk crashing the router or crashing the switch by doing 527 00:29:02,966 --> 00:29:06,866 that, because there's nothing worse than crashing a device in 528 00:29:06,866 --> 00:29:10,166 your rack and then having to sit back and wait potentially hours 529 00:29:10,466 --> 00:29:14,666 or days for some technician to get to that rack and fix it again. 530 00:29:14,666 --> 00:29:22,766 All right, so that brings me to the end of this. 531 00:29:22,766 --> 00:29:26,066 Now I did promise you that before I finished I would show you how to 532 00:29:26,066 --> 00:29:30,066 access INE's racks and sort of how to move around within them. 533 00:29:30,066 --> 00:29:34,266 But before I do that, let me just see if there's any unanswered questions. 534 00:29:34,566 --> 00:29:35,766 Are there any questions from anyone? 535 00:29:35,766 --> 00:29:40,266 Nathaniel, you've got a good question here. 536 00:29:40,566 --> 00:29:44,766 So Nathaniel says sometimes he has a hard time understanding what 537 00:29:44,766 --> 00:29:46,866 the INE lab is asking him to do. 538 00:29:46,866 --> 00:29:49,866 I assume you're talking about like instructions within an INE workbook, 539 00:29:50,166 --> 00:29:54,366 I think. Are the Cisco labs written in a similar verbiage? 540 00:29:54,666 --> 00:29:58,366 I always recommend to people, and this is why I say read through a 541 00:29:58,366 --> 00:30:02,266 lab workbook in advance before you actually start your timer on your 542 00:30:02,566 --> 00:30:03,166 remote equipment. 543 00:30:03,466 --> 00:30:07,366 If you read through a workbook or a pre-designed lab guide and something 544 00:30:07,669 --> 00:30:10,966 in there is unclear, that's your opportunity to contact the company. 545 00:30:10,966 --> 00:30:16,066 Send a message to-- for example, you might not know who within INE 546 00:30:16,066 --> 00:30:19,966 developed a workbook but you can always send a-- within INE's website, 547 00:30:19,966 --> 00:30:22,966 there is a contact link and you can always send us a general e-mail 548 00:30:22,966 --> 00:30:26,166 saying I've got a question about task number 549 00:30:26,466 --> 00:30:27,666 5 in the route workbook. 550 00:30:27,666 --> 00:30:30,066 Can you please have someone get back to me on that? 551 00:30:30,366 --> 00:30:34,266 Send an e-mail to sales or support at INE.com or something like that. 552 00:30:34,266 --> 00:30:36,366 That's your opportunity to ask for clarification. 553 00:30:36,666 --> 00:30:38,166 Yeah, you want to get that clarification. 554 00:30:38,466 --> 00:30:41,466 The Cisco labs, I don't know. 555 00:30:41,466 --> 00:30:44,166 If you're talking about labs written on Cisco's website, 556 00:30:44,166 --> 00:30:47,466 I have not looked at those so I don't know if they are well-written 557 00:30:47,775 --> 00:30:48,966 or if they are not. 558 00:30:48,966 --> 00:30:56,466 Imran asks, is there any way that we can use network monitoring 559 00:30:56,766 --> 00:31:00,966 software like CiscoWorks, Cisco Prime, or SolarWinds to work alongside 560 00:31:01,266 --> 00:31:05,466 your devices? I assume you're talking about a home lab, 561 00:31:05,466 --> 00:31:06,666 not a remote lab. 562 00:31:06,966 --> 00:31:09,366 If you're using a home lab, certainly. 563 00:31:09,366 --> 00:31:12,966 If you have access to CiscoWorks or SolarWinds or something like 564 00:31:13,266 --> 00:31:16,266 that, you can always install that and use that. 565 00:31:16,266 --> 00:31:19,866 If you were accessing a remote lab, probably not. 566 00:31:19,866 --> 00:31:24,366 You're going to be limited to whatever hardware or whatever servers 567 00:31:24,366 --> 00:31:26,766 they have available in the remote rack. 568 00:31:26,766 --> 00:31:30,966 [music]